07
2007
The Measurement Meme
To increase corporate adoption of social media, more tangible results need to come to the forefront vis a vis measurement and case studies. That’s why I hope to start this meme (very inspired by Kami Huyse’s Social Media Club Austin session). There’s so much to be learned by our collective conversation, and hopefully this will trigger a great discussion on metrics and case studies.
Companies are very interested in social media right now, but are not committing resources. Why? Because return on investment is not clear to them. Consider this quote from Monday’s Marketing Vox column:
The ability to accurately monitor the ROI achieved by new marketing tools will help marketers take that first step toward incorporating new digital marketing programs, as well as rethink the effectiveness of current campaigns
Everytime I speak to businesses, the first thing they always want to discuss is results. They want to know if they can achieve ROI on social media marketing campaigns. Note ROI does not necessarily mean hard sales: This ranges from brand perception changes to increased exposure to hard sales increases.
Buzz Bin visits for the last nine months (Google Analytics)
Yet there is still a very large contingent of social media types that tout conversation instead of measurement. Quite frankly, asking companies to invest tens of thousands to millions of dollars on a conversation — while factually accurate — flies in the face of reality. Instead of convincing them, this conversational chatter only scares companies away.
Until we can demonstrate consistent results, organizations will resist social media adoption. Where are the case studies (some reside on Now Is Gone)? Where are the metrics?
So Much to Gain by Having Companies Participate
The most powerful case study to date is Dell. Consider Dell?s 27 point decrease in negative blog posts, from 49 percent at the peak of Dell Hell to the current 22 percent. How much would they have had to spend on an ad campaign to achieve that same result? if that same result is even possible through advertising. Hundreds of millions of dollars for a brand that large.
Consider not only the statistics, but the value of having Dell actively engaged in the marketplace. Suddenly Dell — and as a result its competitors — are much more sensitive to their stakeholders needs and requests. How much better would our general economy be if more companies actively listened to their communities of interest?
Metrics are at the heart of Dell’s case study, and demonstrating ROI in general. Using negative blog posts as a measurement they were able to determine that their brand perception has become significantly better. The key is that they had an outcome in mind when they started their effort.
And there are so many tools available to measure numbers and determine if outcomes are being achieved. One client engagement that I am particularly excited about features a tracking software package (Eloqua) with so much substance it makes Google Analytics look like animal crackers.
Kami Huyse just demonstrated the power of Radian6 on the media snackers meme. Constantin Bastura pointed me to the Institute for Public Relations’ methods of measuring relationships page. Or you can use Google Analytics, comments, and links-to (frequency, unique sites, and negative vs. positive).
Most of my clients are looking for increased visibility as an outcome. So we tend to use Google Analytics, positive impressions and SEO as benchmarks. We allow for an X factor of unintended results, such as media interviews, speaking engagements, etc. resulting from social media activities.
This is a necessary discussion. Social media marketers need to talk about this very important issue because businesses are demanding proof. Our collective wisdom is so powerful. So let’s harness it and begin the discussions with:
- Valeria Maltoni (the Conversation Agent)
- Eric Eggertson (One of my favorite PR bloggers)
- Greg Cangialosi (new found friend from TNNI)
- Connie Bensen (a practicing community manager)
- Jeremiah Owyang (one of my personal most influential bloggers)
- Connie Reece (my favorite scrabble partner)
Of course, Kami Huyse, the master of measurement herself, has a special invitation. I would have tagged her directly, but she’s already written so much on measurement it may just be a redux post. I highly recommend visiting Communication Overtones for more in depth coverage on this topic.
P.S. Memes tend to benefit the originator with links. My purpose it not to send out link bait, rather to facilitate a large discussion. Do not feel obliged to link back to me, but do notify me of posts as I will create a master list. Thanks!


Kami Huyse Says:
November 7th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Wow, you said you were starting a meme. I can’t wait to hear what people have to say about measurement. I might also throw in there, please give examples if you have them.
Jimmy Says:
November 7th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Excellent article. I am currently implementing “new media” programs with several of my clients. I think what you have to understand first is in order to get ROI you have to use the “new media” techniques such as blogs, collaboration, video to create a group of people interested in what you are saying.
Once you use the new media program to creat awareness, I recommend using old school tactics to drive the audience. For example, in California the topic of “going green” is of huge importance socially and politically. I am working with a client right now on creating a green site that will use all the elements of new media to acquire an audience.
Once that audience is required, marketing and PR folks will need to drive them to the different venues of new media such as collaboration projects, podcasts, webinars and events. If I create a green web site to inform the public how to reduce electrical costs in their data centers. The site is simply used for awareness. What companies must realize is that the culture is going to several different venues to be aware of topics. Once that audience is aware of an event that your are doing, I recommend putting a lead program in place that will produce the ROI.
The bottom line is that people are less interested in going to webinars and seminars. As the lines between TV and the internet collide, organization must realize that techniques used to market and measure and ROI from the last 10 years are no longer applicable. I am teaching a class to a group of junior high school students and it is amazing how the younger generation acquires information. If your target market is 15 to 25, I have a group of junior high experts that use grass roots marketing methods and you tube.
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Connie Bensen Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 12:14 am
Thanks Geoff for the invite. Mine is here:
http://conniebensen.com/blog/2007/11/07/measurement-roi-social-media/
Geoff Livingston Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 10:30 am
Kami: THanks for coming by and adding to the discussion. Kami also posted on the measurement meme here:
http://overtonecomm.blogspot.com/2007/11/social-media-measurement-let-talk-about.html
Geoff Livingston Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Jimmy: Great insights and thank you. Miss you in Nova, brother.
Connie: Thank you so much for participating. Great stats in your post.
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Thanks Geoff, I will work on my response. Thanks for the tag, great topic! Congrats on the book!!!
- G
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Hi Geoff:
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TO’B
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