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		<title>By: Why Does PR vs. Advertising vs. Stand Alone Even Matter? &#187; The Buzz Bin</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-72619</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Does PR vs. Advertising vs. Stand Alone Even Matter? &#187; The Buzz Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cut to the chase. What we have really is a new media form that requires convergence from a wide variety of disciplines. Here are some ingredients in this fantastic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marketing Departments Become Two-Way &#187; The Buzz Bin</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-40221</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Departments Become Two-Way &#187; The Buzz Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just a disclaimer: Some may place different tools under the control of another function like PR or product marketing.&#160; This is particularly true in the case of social media, which is often fought over by different departments within marketing, in large part because it combines aspects of many disciplines. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just a disclaimer: Some may place different tools under the control of another function like PR or product marketing.&nbsp; This is particularly true in the case of social media, which is often fought over by different departments within marketing, in large part because it combines aspects of many disciplines. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Copywrite, Ink.: Digging In: Marketing vs. PR</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-31527</link>
		<dc:creator>Copywrite, Ink.: Digging In: Marketing vs. PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] is distrusting of the integration of public relations under marketing. Livingston believes in the convergence of integrated communication under marketing. They are neither wrong nor right, or perhaps they are [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Public Relations can be Challenging Connie Bensen: My Conversations</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-31155</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Public Relations can be Challenging Connie Bensen: My Conversations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] So I have a question back - doesn&#8217;t marketing put a &#8217;spin&#8217; on things, too? (Having a feeling Connie&#8217;s going to get an education in the difference between marketing &amp; PR&#8230;which is great because I&#8217;m willing to learn!)        Geoff Livingston said, in January 13th, 2008 at 12:57 pm  In online communities, there&#8217;s increasing convergence between marketing disciplines. I wrote a post called Convergence on that topic http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/12/10/convergence/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/nfs/c02/h08/mnt/28447/domains/livingstonbuzz.com/html/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] So I have a question back &#8211; doesn&#8217;t marketing put a &#8217;spin&#8217; on things, too? (Having a feeling Connie&#8217;s going to get an education in the difference between marketing &amp; PR&#8230;which is great because I&#8217;m willing to learn!)        Geoff Livingston said, in January 13th, 2008 at 12:57 pm  In online communities, there&#8217;s increasing convergence between marketing disciplines. I wrote a post called Convergence on that topic <a href="http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/12/10/convergence/" rel="nofollow">http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/blog/2007/12/10/convergence/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Livingston</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-29924</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric  Similarly, I guess that means if you are a janitor talking to a NY Times reporter then you are the PR department. And if you screw up the VP of PR should get canned, and the CEO will have to explain how the story ended up that way... 

Just because you may understand a department function esoterically doesn&#039;t mean your qualified to perform that job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric  Similarly, I guess that means if you are a janitor talking to a NY Times reporter then you are the PR department. And if you screw up the VP of PR should get canned, and the CEO will have to explain how the story ended up that way&#8230; </p>
<p>Just because you may understand a department function esoterically doesn&#8217;t mean your qualified to perform that job.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Eggertson</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-29906</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Eggertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it depends on how narrowly you define customer service.  If I&#039;m helping a client or a client department, then I&#039;m in customer service whether I like the term or not. If I have lousy relations with those clients, then I won&#039;t be very busy, and I&#039;ll have lots of time to moan on my blog about how they don&#039;t &quot;get it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on how narrowly you define customer service.  If I&#8217;m helping a client or a client department, then I&#8217;m in customer service whether I like the term or not. If I have lousy relations with those clients, then I won&#8217;t be very busy, and I&#8217;ll have lots of time to moan on my blog about how they don&#8217;t &#8220;get it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: When Should Marketers Use Social Media? &#124; Gauravonomics Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-26077</link>
		<dc:creator>When Should Marketers Use Social Media? &#124; Gauravonomics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and I followed the trail and stumbled across interesting posts on the topic by Susan Payton, Geoff Livingston (also see), Mack Collier, Jeremy Pepper, Kami Huyse, Susan Getgood, Bill Sledzik, Robert Passikoff [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and I followed the trail and stumbled across interesting posts on the topic by Susan Payton, Geoff Livingston (also see), Mack Collier, Jeremy Pepper, Kami Huyse, Susan Getgood, Bill Sledzik, Robert Passikoff [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On Convergence - Covering All That's Social All the Web</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-25760</link>
		<dc:creator>On Convergence - Covering All That's Social All the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this week, Geoff Livington wrote a post about Convergence. Geoff referred to the convergence of marketing, customer service and PR. Not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: PR Squared: Marketing: It's Evolution Not Revolution</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-25578</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Squared: Marketing: It's Evolution Not Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] We&#8217;re still evolving.&#160; Look at Marketing.&#160; In the last few years alone, the Live Web has emerged &#8211; empowering all online denizens to publish/share/influence with the same speed and efficacy as any multinational marketeer &#8211; and lo&#8217;, the top-down &#8220;broadcast&#8221; model which dominated Marketing for the past 75 years has been turned on its head.&#160; [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/nfs/c02/h08/mnt/28447/domains/livingstonbuzz.com/html/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] We&rsquo;re still evolving.&nbsp; Look at Marketing.&nbsp; In the last few years alone, the Live Web has emerged &ndash; empowering all online denizens to publish/share/influence with the same speed and efficacy as any multinational marketeer &ndash; and lo&rsquo;, the top-down &ldquo;broadcast&rdquo; model which dominated Marketing for the past 75 years has been turned on its head.&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techno//Marketer: links for 2007-12-11</title>
		<link>http://www.livingstonbuzz.com/2007/12/10/convergence/comment-page-1/#comment-25269</link>
		<dc:creator>Techno//Marketer: links for 2007-12-11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Convergence Â» The Buzz Bin Geoff Livingston looks at the convergence of marketing in social media. (tags: marketing convergence geoff livingston) [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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